Update

[mtemplar_fic]

The missing scene from THANTH is DONE!!!! It's off to the ever helpful and shiny betas for sprucing up and for help in deciding the warnings to slap on as well as to decide how it should be posted/distributed, 'cause it is very, very wrong. Not as bad as it could have been, but still... it's just wrong.

I'm feeling terribly dirty right now. Maybe another shower would help.

Comments

[garpu.livejournal.com]

Don't think it can be *half* as bad as some of the fic I've seen...

[mtemplar-fic.livejournal.com]

Bad as in...? Subject matter? Characterization? *flails some more*

[garpu.livejournal.com]

Sorry, bad = disturbing. Kind of busy at work. Dunno why, but I"m totally creeped out by het/slash involving the kids in the Sarah Jane adventures or Ten/Jenny fic. Realize there are those who like that sort of thing, so I'm not making a judgment against them. But some fics aren't always labeled well. :(

[principia-coh.livejournal.com]

Or random hideous torture for the sake of hideous torture fics. There's plenty of those to go around as well.

[garpu.livejournal.com]

Yeah...although I'm less disturbed by torture, if it's in a plot. I mean, it's not like it doesn't happen in Doctor Who (more in classic than new.) Heck, even Eight in one of the audios was making an offhanded comment about hating torturers with cold hands.

[mtemplar-fic.livejournal.com]

This reminds me of something I sent to you... I'm glad you're not disturbed by that in a sense.

[garpu.livejournal.com]

Naw, that totally wasn't disturbing.

[mtemplar-fic.livejournal.com]

Ah, but I didn't tell you what Rose was up to! *grins shiftily*

[garpu.livejournal.com]

Maybe I have too many kinky friends, because that wasn't overly disturbing. :)

[principia-coh.livejournal.com]

Yeah, but I'm talking about some of the stuff on Teaspoon where that is the plot. That's it.

Example of a good fic which deals with the Doctor having been tortured: The Gift of Words by nogbad, because there's a point to it.

[garpu.livejournal.com]

Oooh, is that the one, where the Doctor loses all of his senses? That one was interesting. (and well-balanced by some good comfort at the end of it.) And, yeah, torture without a plot is annoying.

[principia-coh.livejournal.com]

Nope. It's a long-term WIP (as in there are months between very long chapters) that hasn't finished yet. The first three parts are at T&C, the rest are at the author's journal. Here's the first part.

[garpu.livejournal.com]

Cool, thanks...on part 4, and I like how she doesn't give you everything all at once...

[mtemplar-fic.livejournal.com]

*shuffles feet nervously for another fic*

[principia-coh.livejournal.com]

I'd call the particular fics (or, to be honest, author) to which/whom I'm specifically referring, but then you'd have to actually go look at the fics in question.

There's a plethora of circumstances under which it would be appropriate to a plot for the Doctor to be tortured, even to the point of breaking: it would serve as a linchpin for hurt/comfort fics, to be sure. I think the only reason we don't see it more often is because of the continued perception by a lot of folks that it is, to a certain degree, a children's show.

When the entirety of a fic reads like a borderline snuff film, and it's clear the author must be taking a sadistic glee in writing the graphic torture scenes because that's all there is to the 'story'... that's just not on.

[mtemplar-fic.livejournal.com]

Was talking about an upcoming one of mine that I'm still plotting out, actually. There will be torture involved, but it is part of the plot.

[principia-coh.livejournal.com]

I've thought about/considered a fic or two with that as a big chunk of the plot m'self, but can't seem to bring myself to write 'em.

[mtemplar-fic.livejournal.com]

*nods* I've found hurting the mains to be a very difficult thing, even if you know what you're talking about. There will be torture within the fic in question, but with a twist. Not looking forward to writing that particular bit, as I think it will be very nerve-racking.

[mtemplar-fic.livejournal.com]

I'll do slash, but I'd stay well away from fics in the genres you mentioned myself. Those are the ones that should be well-labeled with the appropriate warnings to avoid the inadvertant squick.

Get back to work, you!

[garpu.livejournal.com]

Oh yeah. Nothing wrong with slash, especially if it involves Jack. Mmm, yes please. :)

[mtemplar-fic.livejournal.com]

Oooh! We could trade! Drabble in exchange for a song?

[garpu.livejournal.com]

We could! Dang, I really need to get around to that meme I started...had 12 responses before I closed it.

[mtemplar-fic.livejournal.com]

I figured it'd be popular. *grins*

[huggabledog.livejournal.com]

LOL, yup. I find anything with kids disturbing, and the idea of Harry Potter slash, which I know is out there - that's another D category altogether. Ten/Jenny doesn't appeal but doesn't bother me. I really don't understand why anyone would write or enjoy male preg, but you're right in not being judgemental. There are a lot of harmless kinks about.

[mtemplar-fic.livejournal.com]

And this is why things should be labeled - so that you can find *your* kink and avoid others. *grins*