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Jul. 16th, 2008 03:05 pm
mtemplar_fic: (THANTH - Doctor/Rose)
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The missing scene from THANTH is DONE!!!! It's off to the ever helpful and shiny betas for sprucing up and for help in deciding the warnings to slap on as well as to decide how it should be posted/distributed, 'cause it is very, very wrong. Not as bad as it could have been, but still... it's just wrong.

I'm feeling terribly dirty right now. Maybe another shower would help.

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Date: 2008-07-16 10:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mtemplar-fic.livejournal.com
*shuffles feet nervously for another fic*

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Date: 2008-07-16 10:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] principia-coh.livejournal.com
I'd call the particular fics (or, to be honest, author) to which/whom I'm specifically referring, but then you'd have to actually go look at the fics in question.

There's a plethora of circumstances under which it would be appropriate to a plot for the Doctor to be tortured, even to the point of breaking: it would serve as a linchpin for hurt/comfort fics, to be sure. I think the only reason we don't see it more often is because of the continued perception by a lot of folks that it is, to a certain degree, a children's show.

When the entirety of a fic reads like a borderline snuff film, and it's clear the author must be taking a sadistic glee in writing the graphic torture scenes because that's all there is to the 'story'... that's just not on.
Edited Date: 2008-07-16 10:39 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2008-07-16 11:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mtemplar-fic.livejournal.com
Was talking about an upcoming one of mine that I'm still plotting out, actually. There will be torture involved, but it is part of the plot.

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Date: 2008-07-17 04:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] principia-coh.livejournal.com
I've thought about/considered a fic or two with that as a big chunk of the plot m'self, but can't seem to bring myself to write 'em.

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Date: 2008-07-17 05:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mtemplar-fic.livejournal.com
*nods* I've found hurting the mains to be a very difficult thing, even if you know what you're talking about. There will be torture within the fic in question, but with a twist. Not looking forward to writing that particular bit, as I think it will be very nerve-racking.

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Date: 2008-07-17 05:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] principia-coh.livejournal.com
I've found hurting the mains to be a very difficult thing, even if you know what you're talking about.

There can be some ways to get around that, if the point is just to cause pain rather than injury (e.g., envenomization with irukandji sting), assuming literal injury isn't part of the plot.

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Date: 2008-07-17 05:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mtemplar-fic.livejournal.com
e.g., envenomization with irukandji sting

Mmmmm... doubt they have any of that on the ice planet! *grins* And yes, the point is to cause pain and distress, not nec. permanent injury - which does make a huge difference in the writing.

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Date: 2008-07-17 06:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] principia-coh.livejournal.com
Mmmmm... doubt they have any of that on the ice planet! *grins* And yes, the point is to cause pain and distress, not nec. permanent injury - which does make a huge difference in the writing.

You could borrow the effects of something like that, though, and just make up some alien creature from which the substance has been derived. A time honored trick of scifi writers. Not to mention the Doctor could try to be all rational and yak at Rose about how fascinating the stuff is, and how similar it is to X, Y or Z from Earth ('...galaxies away, but they evolved the same tactic for dealing with similar prey...').

I'm just trying to think of ways to make it less squick-inducing for you as a writer.
Edited Date: 2008-07-17 06:09 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2008-07-17 06:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mtemplar-fic.livejournal.com
I'm ok with that stuff, it's the twist that's going to make things really angsty and potentially horrific. *squirms*

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