mtemplar_fic: (THANTH - Doctor/Rose)
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Title: To Have And Not To Hold
Author: [livejournal.com profile] mtemplar
Rating: Adult (to be safe)
Characters: The Doctor (Tenth), Rose Tyler
Genre: Angst, Hurt/Comfort, Romance
Disclaimer: I do not own 'Doctor Who' and am making no profit from this fanfiction.
Spoilers: Series 2, up to 'School Reunion'
Author's Notes: My first Who-fic - please be gentle! Thanks to [livejournal.com profile] slayersgrl and [livejournal.com profile] nonlinearmusing for initial read-throughs and suggestions. Grammar and formatting helpfully beta'ed by [livejournal.com profile] brit_columbia and [livejournal.com profile] banshee196; general content/grammar has been kindly betaed by [livejournal.com profile] platypus - thank you all so very much!
This story is loosely based on the Fourth Doctor serial, 'The Brain of Morbius' and contains elements from the 1996 TV Movie and the NA novel 'Lungbarrow'.

Summary: The Sacred Flame of the Sisterhood of Karn has failed. Will the Doctor once again be able to put things right? Rose soon finds herself in over her head as she learns a few secrets about her traveling companion.

Previous Chapters:

Un Deux Trois Quatre Cinq Six Sept Huit Neuf Dix Onze Douze


Crossposted to Teaspoon and [livejournal.com profile] time_and_chips!

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Rose reached out her hands to steady herself as a violent storm raged around her. She was caught out in the open, though, with nothing to hang on to and no shelter to be found. Driving rain and wind lashed at her as she attempted to peer through the gloom. She could barely see the clumps of tall grasses a short distance from her, the tips of their long blades nearly touching the ground from being buffeted about by the wind. Scattered rose petals blew by her feet, crushed and torn. Shock began to register as she realized that this was her meadow.

Please remain calm, Rose Tyler. The Time Lord's senses are still blocked. He is having difficulty initiating contact and holding corporeal form. I will assist him.

Rose flinched at Lyra's words inside her mind. This was all her fault. A fresh blast of wind-propelled rain stood her straight up and she welcomed the stinging spray, turning her head to the side and squinting to avoid the full impact on her face. The force of the gale suddenly began to die back and Rose opened her eyes to her storm-battered meadow, the wild roses completely stripped of their petals. As she surveyed the damage, a huddled form partially hidden amongst the tall grasses caught her attention. She ran to it, dreading what she might find.

The Doctor was once again attired in his pinstriped suit, splattered with mud from the damp ground beneath them. Rose rolled him over to lie on his back, noting that he seemed even paler than usual, a streak of mud standing out on his cheek. His eyes were closed and brow furrowed in concentration. As she knelt at his side, he reached out a hand in her direction. She took it, kissing the tips of his fingers and watching as he shuddered.

Replacing the Doctor's hand on his chest, Rose was wondering what she should do, stranded in a virtual meadow with an incapacitated, panicky Time Lord who needed what Lyra had called 'Gallifreyan comfort'. She wasn't Gallifreyan by a long shot, she mused, and she had no idea what he needed. Recollections of Christmas came flooding into her head as she looked at the Doctor's still form, feeling miserable.

As she continued to watch him, though, the Doctor began to stir, rolling over onto his hands and slowly maneuvering his body closer to her until he flopped back down, his head in Rose's lap. On impulse, she threaded her fingers through his ruffled hair, stroking gently. He groaned in response, twisting his body to lie on his back, his head remaining in her lap.

Rose continued to stroke through his hair and across his forehead, her fingers lingering at his temples, trying to emulate the caresses she had seen Melina and Riza give him. The Doctor seemed to relax at her touch, sighing in contentment. As Rose continued her light massage, she was amazed to see the low clouds above her part, revealing cerulean skies dotted with fluffy white clouds. A gentle breeze swept through her hair and she could have sworn she heard birdsong, but the noise was drowned out by soft snores...the Doctor had fallen asleep. Rose shifted slightly, trying to relieve the prickling pains running through her legs, which had gone slightly numb under the weight of the Doctor's head. She glanced up to see that the periphery of the meadow was blurred - and the blurring was advancing slowly toward where she sat. Alarmed, she lifted the Doctor's head off of her legs and to the side, prepared to drag him if necessary away from the advancing distortion. There was no time to run, though, and no escape - both she and the Doctor were engulfed by the anomaly....


***************

Rose came to slowly, rubbing at her eyes to clear her vision. The Doctor's face gradually swam into view. He appeared to be sleeping peacefully, his face relaxed and lips slightly parted. He continued to snore softly, his cool fingers slipping from her temples to trail slowly down her cheek, eventually falling to the mattress below.

You did well, Rose Tyler. The Time Lord should sleep off the remainder of the soporific.

"Is he all right?" Rose asked, sitting up to see Lyra still behind the headboard. "I mean, everything sort of disappeared in the meadow. What happened?"

The Time Lord has calmed enough to fall asleep. He lost tactile contact with you when he did so and whatever vision you saw in your mind while he was linked to you would have vanished. He must rest now and so should you. Are you hungry?

Rose blinked, trying to remember her last meal. The banquet suddenly seemed like it had been ages ago and she was famished. "How long...how long have we been here?"

You have been here for approximately one of your Earth days - twenty-five hours. Would you like something to eat? Something to drink?

Rose gaped at Lyra. An entire day? No wonder she felt like she was starving. "You're not going to drug it again, are you?" she asked Lyra, her eyes slightly narrowed.

I assure you, it will not be, Rose Tyler. There is no need now. Lyra moved from behind the scrolled metal headboard and crossed the room, pausing by the door. I will return shortly.

Rose felt slightly bereft as Lyra exited, closing the heavy wooden door behind her with a dull thud. She turned her attention back to her companion, who had shifted from his side to his back and was obviously trying to take up as much of the bed as possible. "Figures you'd be a bed hog," Rose muttered under her breath. "C'mon, budge up."

When the Doctor didn't stir, Rose sighed, lying down and snuggling in close to him, his arm under the arch of her neck. She fully intended to wait for Lyra to return, but her exhaustion caught up with her and she drifted off into an uneasy slumber.

***************

It was cold in the room when Rose awoke. She was momentarily disoriented, wondering which room in the TARDIS she'd managed to fall asleep in. A quick glance around the room, and specifically across the bed from her, brought the memories and guilt flooding back. The Doctor was still deeply asleep, not appearing to have stirred. The fire had burned down to embers and emitted a dim orange glow. Sitting up, Rose rubbed her orange-red robed arms in an effort to warm them. She noticed that the basin, sponge and oil had been removed from the bedside table and replaced with a tray of unfamiliar food and a large carafe of water. A thick crimson blanket with a chunky, rustic weave lay draped at the foot of the bed, contrasting with the whiteness of the sheeting. The Doctor didn't appear to be cold under the sheet, but she pulled it up over his shoulders and draped the heavy blanket over him, just in case.

Rose shivered from the chill of the stone floor beneath her bare feet as she crossed over to the fireplace, shoving one of the two handy gnarled wooden logs into the embers. After a few moments, the fire blazed to life, imparting comforting warmth and light to the chilly room. She briefly stood in front of the rekindled fire, rubbing her hands together to warm them. Feeling a bit better, she moved over to the bedside table to investigate the contents of the tray. She recognized some of the foods that she had eaten at the banquet, but most were unfamiliar. She decided to avoid the exotic-appearing fruits, even though Lyra had assured her that the food would not be drugged. The dish that resembled bread pudding appeared to be safe, and Rose ate hungrily, washing it down with a glass of water poured from the carafe. Glancing at the tray again, she decided to leave the rest for the Doctor for when he awoke, but a dark, rock-shaped object caught her attention. Picking it up and inspecting it closely, Rose thought it resembled chocolate and knocked off a tiny piece, tentatively placing it in her mouth. It was gorgeous - a rich milky chocolate that melted instantly on her tongue. She sighed happily, wondering if the Doctor liked chocolate, and if not, if she could have the rest.

She was licking the sticky residue off her fingers when a soft keening noise from the bed caught her attention. The Doctor was shifting in the bed, the blanket and sheet falling away from his pale shoulders. Rose immediately climbed up on the mattress, scooching over to where the Doctor lay and smoothing his fringe away from his eyes. "'S'ok - you're safe," she soothed.

His eyes remained tightly closed, but he grasped her hand, pulling it to his lips and inhaling deeply. Rose felt a strange fluttering sensation in her abdomen as the Doctor tentatively licked her index finger, then gasped as he took her finger in his warm mouth, sucking ravenously at the chocolate residue. Flushing at the intimate gesture, she reluctantly extracted her hand from the Doctor's grasp, clumsily wading through the bedding on her way back over to the bedside table. Picking up the chocolate, she struck it against the edge of the table to break it into smaller pieces, gathering them up into the empty dish that had previously held the bread pudding. She climbed back up onto the bed, moving carefully to avoid spilling the contents of the shallow container.

She scooted up to him, pressing a small piece of the chocolate to his lips, watching with fascination as his pink tongue appeared. He licked at the chocolate briefly before engulfing both chocolate and Rose's fingers in his warm mouth. Her stomach was doing flip-flops as she extracted her fingers with a soft popping noise and grabbed another piece from the dish. She continued to feed him, and all too soon the chocolate was finished. Rose wondered what else he might like from the tray and was shifting to go back over to look when the Doctor grabbed her hand, yanking her down alongside him. He kissed her soundly, his tongue making a thorough sweep of her mouth as her eyes widened. Could he still be under the influence of the soporific? Had the chocolate been drugged? A sudden flash of hope flared within her - could it be that he was reacting to whatever bond was between them? Rose reluctantly broke the kiss, breathing hard. The Doctor was panting, eyes still closed, a smear of chocolate at the corner of his mouth. Steadying herself, she sat back, a hand at her chest trying to slow the rapid beating of her heart. After she had calmed somewhat, she began to look around for something to wipe the chocolate away with, deciding against the white sheets or the sleeve of her robe.

Rose glanced over to the tray on the bedside table, not seeing anything that would be useful. As she didn't feel comfortable leaving the room to go to the bathing chamber for a towel, she had reluctantly decided on using a small corner of the sheet when her eyes lit on a small scrap of material tangled in the folds of the sheet. She grabbed it up, curious as to how it conveniently came to be in the middle of the bed. As she unfurled the cloth, she noticed that it looked familiar. It was the missing piece of the Doctor's torn shirt - and was stained with blood.


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(no subject)

Date: 2008-02-06 04:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shengirl.livejournal.com
Lol, the Doctor sure is a grabby sleeper, isn't he? And a sound one! XD

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Date: 2008-02-07 02:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mtemplar-fic.livejournal.com
He's still not quite himself, obviously. *grins* Thanks for reading!

(no subject)

Date: 2008-02-06 05:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] athenesolon.livejournal.com
Rose glanced over to the tray on the bedside table, not seeing anything that would be useful. As she didn't feel comfortable leaving the room to go to the bathing chamber for a towel, she had reluctantly decided on using a small corner of the sheet when her eyes lit on a small scrap of material tangled in the folds of the sheet. She grabbed it up, curious as to how it conveniently came to be in the middle of the bed. As she unfurled the cloth, she noticed that it looked familiar. It was the missing piece of the Doctor's torn shirt - and was stained with blood.

Oooooooo, I can bet Rose isn't going to be happy about that. Wow.

(no subject)

Date: 2008-02-07 03:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mtemplar-fic.livejournal.com
Mmmmmm...probably not, no. *grins* Thanks for reading!

(no subject)

Date: 2008-02-06 05:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] binah1013.livejournal.com
I'm glad to see a new chapter up. Can't wait for the Doctor to wake up.

(no subject)

Date: 2008-02-07 03:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mtemplar-fic.livejournal.com
You might get your wish next Wednesday! But will he be back to himself? Thanks for reading!

(no subject)

Date: 2008-02-06 11:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aquidis.livejournal.com
You used to word keening! Major love.

(no subject)

Date: 2008-02-06 11:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aquidis.livejournal.com
And by to I mean the.

(no subject)

Date: 2008-02-07 03:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mtemplar-fic.livejournal.com
*blinks*

Wanted his chocolate, that one. Hence the keening. Is that a word to avoid?

(no subject)

Date: 2008-02-07 04:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aquidis.livejournal.com
No, not at all. I just really like it and don't see it used often.

I don't think I've commented before, but I adore this story. The world you built is really fun to read about (not to mention all the nice Doctor/Rose stuff).

(no subject)

Date: 2008-02-07 02:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mtemplar-fic.livejournal.com
Me too! I remember when I fist saw it used in a fic I think I had an 'OMG' moment too - *laughs*

And thank you! I just heard that 'Brain of Morbius' was approved for DVD release, so maybe more people will get to see this little world that I'm playing in. *wishes fervently that RTD would bring back the Sisters instead of other monsters - they're so much more interesting*

(no subject)

Date: 2008-02-07 12:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caitidid19.livejournal.com
Ohhh, I love this story. I wonder if this will set of Rose's memory of her own experience with the soporific? And how much will the Doctor actually not remember of all this. That last part with the chocolate, I'd almost bet money the Doctor was dreaming... I can't wait to see the interaction between the Doctor and Rose when he wakes up, because the are both feeling awkward about what they did for each other, not knowing the other did the same. Boy, that sentence was a mess, but you get what I mean. And it really is a cruel punishment making us wait a whole week for the next chapter, *pouts*. Oh well...

(no subject)

Date: 2008-02-07 03:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mtemplar-fic.livejournal.com
Thank you! And... you'll find out next week. The Doctor is not quite back to his regular self yet, no, but at least he got some chocolate, right? And yes, it will be interesting when he's actually awake. *grins*

Apologies for making you wait - I am a very pokey writer (work, 2 kidlings and 1 baby). *grovels*

Thanks for reading!

To Have and Not To Hold

Date: 2008-02-07 12:29 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Thank you for your brilliant characterisations.

I love your writing and wait for Quatorze with bated breath and palpitating heart! Your stories are beautifully written and conceptualized. You've captured the Doctor's speech, manner, and intent in your dialog dead on. Rose's 19-year-old perspective; her insecurities about 'him' and his apparent "lack" of feeling for her.... perfect.

I own all the new series up to the one's being played in UK - Series 4 with Catherine Tate as companion and 'Voyage of the Damned' (but I couldn't tell you how many times "The Face of Boe" appears or which anagrams are which or any of that arcane trivia, sorry). For me, "the play's the thing" and you have made these characters come to flesh in my mind, expressing feelings and emotions as my heart wishes they would... but I know will never be portrayed in the series. Fantastic.

Thanks again.

Re: To Have and Not To Hold

Date: 2008-02-07 03:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mtemplar-fic.livejournal.com
Um, wow. I really don't think I merit this kind of glowing review, but it's making my 13 hour workday seem so much better right now! Thank you so very much for your kind comments!

I hope you'll like 'Quatorze' next week - it has a truly evil cliffhanger, but I'm still tweaking it just a bit, so maybe it won't end up being quite so bad.

The true challenge for me will come when Ten is back to himself - I find it really difficult to write his babbling! *grins*

Thanks for reading and for the kind words!

(no subject)

Date: 2008-02-07 03:20 am (UTC)
ext_46389: (10 & Rose)
From: [identity profile] icycolour.livejournal.com
Fantastic update. I was so excited to see it on my 'friends list!' :)

Keep up the fantastic work and next week can't come soon enough.

(no subject)

Date: 2008-02-07 02:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mtemplar-fic.livejournal.com
Wow - that's weird that you'd see it on your friends list when other people don't - was it through T & C or this journal itself?

And thank you!

(no subject)

Date: 2008-02-07 10:09 pm (UTC)
ext_46389: (10 & Rose)
From: [identity profile] icycolour.livejournal.com
No, I saw it on here. *shrug* Sometimes websites can be temperamental.

(no subject)

Date: 2008-02-07 10:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mtemplar-fic.livejournal.com
That is truly odd. Maybe LJ is having a hiccup.

(no subject)

Date: 2008-02-07 04:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] principia-coh.livejournal.com
Yours is one of the journals that LJ seems hell-bent not to send me notifications for, despite my having it tagged. Argh!

Driving rain and wind lashed at her as she attempted to peer through the gloom.

So his mindscape even perceives itself as the Oncoming Storm, eh?

Rose flinched at Lyra's words inside her mind. This was all her fault.

Oh, hardly. I'd lay the blame at the feet of Sister Thang.

His eyes were closed and brow furrowed in concentration. As she knelt at his side, he reached out a hand in her direction. She took it, kissing the tips of his fingers and watching as he shuddered.

The continued effect of the megadose is clearly not helping. Not a terribly scientific approach by the Sisters - more like an LD50 test!

Recollections of Christmas came flooding into her head as she looked at the Doctor's still form, feeling miserable.

I hope he's not that badly off!

As she continued to watch him, though, the Doctor began to stir, rolling over onto his hands and slowly maneuvering his body closer to her until he flopped back down, his head in Rose's lap. On impulse, she threaded her fingers through his ruffled hair, stroking gently. He groaned in response, twisting his body to lie on his back, his head remaining in her lap.

I know I shouldn't think this is terribly cute, but it is adorable that he's going to lengths to be snuggling up to her even in his sleep-addled mind.

The Doctor seemed to relax at her touch, sighing in contentment. As Rose continued her light massage, she was amazed to see the low clouds above her part, revealing cerulean skies dotted with fluffy white clouds.

I'd be curious to know what it's like when one of the wannabes is trying to give him the same treatment.

You did well, Rose Tyler. The Time Lord should sleep off the remainder of the soporific.

If this hadn't gone well, would the soporific had still worn off eventually?

I assure you, it will not be, Rose Tyler. There is no need now.

Oh, good, that makes me feel so much better. *eyeroll*

What about the next time they decide there is a need?

Rose felt a strange fluttering sensation in her abdomen as the Doctor tentatively licked her index finger, then gasped as he took her finger in his warm mouth, sucking ravenously at the chocolate residue.

Isn't that so much better than having the rest of the choccies to yourself? XD

He kissed her soundly... The Doctor was panting, eyes still closed, a smear of chocolate at the corner of his mouth.

Sleep-kissing! Hee!

It was the missing piece of the Doctor's torn shirt - and was stained with blood.

She's not going to be happy about that - even less so if she thinks it's evidence of the Sisters having done something else untoward to the Doctor. After all, they did promise not to harm either of them.

(no subject)

Date: 2008-02-07 06:39 am (UTC)
platypus: (Default)
From: [personal profile] platypus
This journal does not show up on my friends list, despite being friended! It's a conspiracy, it is.

ETA: So his mindscape even perceives itself as the Oncoming Storm, eh?

Oh my God, if that was intentional I missed it. *headdesk*

*helpless laughter*

There's a bit a couple of chapters down that is suddenly hilarious. I love it.
Edited Date: 2008-02-07 06:41 am (UTC)

(no subject)

Date: 2008-02-07 03:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mtemplar-fic.livejournal.com
Probably because I work on the chapters in this journal and check the little 'date out of order' box. I'll think about fixing that.

Oh my God, if that was intentional I missed it. *headdesk*

No way! Really?!? I get grilled about everything else and you missed that one? *laughs*

There's a bit a couple of chapters down that is suddenly hilarious. I love it.

What, a chapter that's already posted or one of the upcoming ones? Or is it the email I sent about 'the little grey stormcloud that could'? *laughs at the silly*

(no subject)

Date: 2008-02-07 04:25 pm (UTC)
platypus: (Default)
From: [personal profile] platypus
Oh! Yes, mucking around with the entry date will cause it not to show up on flists as a new entry. You could always work on it in the journal, copy and paste it as a new entry when you're done, then just delete the private entry?

And I do have a knack for occasionally missing what's in front of my face. In college, I had to write a lesson plan about "The New Colossus," the poem on the Statue of Liberty. I went on about symbolism, meter, yadda yadda. After I turned it in, a classmate mentioned the first thing she'd said about it: that it was a sonnet. Which was the first I'd thought about that. There are still people who tease me by saying, "And it's a sonnet!" (Usually about things that are not sonnets.)

Anyway. Yes, the little stormcloud bit :).

(no subject)

Date: 2008-02-07 04:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] principia-coh.livejournal.com
Anyway. Yes, the little stormcloud bit :).

And now I'm having visions of a little anime-style poofety cartoon stormcloud bopping along wearing a misshapen pinstripe suit, with big ol' glasses on going 'WHACKTHOOM!' in a young English child's voice.

(no subject)

Date: 2008-02-07 08:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mtemplar-fic.livejournal.com
And now I'm having visions of a little anime-style poofety cartoon stormcloud bopping along wearing a misshapen pinstripe suit, with big ol' glasses on going 'WHACKTHOOM!' in a young English child's voice.

*laughs* I'm hearing an 11-year-old Daniel Radcliffe!

(no subject)

Date: 2008-02-07 08:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mtemplar-fic.livejournal.com
Anyway. Yes, the little stormcloud bit :).

Yep, that's not making it into the story, obviously. *grins* Now I can tease you mercilessly about sonnets and stormclouds - hee!

(no subject)

Date: 2008-02-07 09:11 pm (UTC)
platypus: (Default)
From: [personal profile] platypus
Yep, that's not making it into the story, obviously.

Well, not as such, but there's still the thing that I asked about that prompted you to say it :).

(no subject)

Date: 2008-02-07 09:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mtemplar-fic.livejournal.com
Man, now I'll have to go back and find that email! I remember that you didn't like one of the words I used and that's about it, really. It's been a busy last few days around my neck of the woods!

(no subject)

Date: 2008-02-07 09:59 pm (UTC)
platypus: (Default)
From: [personal profile] platypus
I feel less guilty about being slow on the latest draft of Quinze now ;).

(no subject)

Date: 2008-02-07 10:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mtemplar-fic.livejournal.com
'S ok - Brit had loads of edits that I have yet to put in. I'm in the hot seat for work this week and I just haven't had time. 'Seize' is in the pipeline, assuming there's no major changes (ie the dreaded rewrite) on 'Quinze'. *grins*

(no subject)

Date: 2008-02-07 10:35 pm (UTC)
platypus: (Default)
From: [personal profile] platypus
Would you rather I twiddled my thumbs and responded to the next draft once you're done, or got off my butt and sent you comments so you could work with both sets at once? It'd only be the usual persnickety stuff, not OMG REWRITE SOMETHING. :)

Edited because it is very important that twiddling involve both thumbs.
Edited Date: 2008-02-07 10:35 pm (UTC)

(no subject)

Date: 2008-02-07 11:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mtemplar-fic.livejournal.com
Mmmm...up to your schedule, I suppose. I'm probably not going to get to the edits until Friday. If tonight is better for you to send comments, then by all means don't let my pokeyness stop you! *laughs at your editing - where have I seen this before?*

And oh yay - no major rewrites!

(no subject)

Date: 2008-02-07 03:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mtemplar-fic.livejournal.com
Yours is one of the journals that LJ seems hell-bent not to send me notifications for, despite my having it tagged. Argh!

I'd guess it's because I have entries done in advance and check the 'date out of order' box. I might see about doing entries a little differently.

So his mindscape even perceives itself as the Oncoming Storm, eh?


Yup! Even subconsciously - maybe more so in that situation.

The continued effect of the megadose is clearly not helping. Not a terribly scientific approach by the Sisters - more like an LD50 test!

Couple that with his artron loss, and well....

I know I shouldn't think this is terribly cute, but it is adorable that he's going to lengths to be snuggling up to her even in his sleep-addled mind.

He just wanted his telepathic!cuddle...can't blame the poor guy. *grins*

I'd be curious to know what it's like when one of the wannabes is trying to give him the same treatment.

Y'know what would be fun - writing this whole thing over from the Doctor's POV. I'm not that crazy though! *grins*

If this hadn't gone well, would the soporific had still worn off eventually?

Yes, but he might have had Melina to contend with.

Oh, good, that makes me feel so much better. *eyeroll*

What about the next time they decide there is a need?


You'll find out soon! *grins*




(no subject)

Date: 2008-02-07 03:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] principia-coh.livejournal.com
I'm starting to wonder if LJ isn't also having another issue with notifications and links to journals with underscores in the name like they had a while back - there are a few journals and comms for which I don't receive proper notifications, and all of them have an underscore somewhere in the name. Example: I got notifications for [livejournal.com profile] platypus's comments, but not yours.

I'd ask folks if they have problems with mine, but I wouldn't presume that anyone actually tracks my journal.

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I might see about doing entries a little differently.

For most of my fics I have my private backup entry/working copy, which I then put into a new, accessible entry when it's ready to be posted.

Couple that with his artron loss, and well....

Do you mean couple that with his 'artron loss' as a euphemism, or is the loss of artron energy literally having a deleterious effect on him?

He just wanted his telepathic!cuddle...can't blame the poor guy. *grins*

At least she knows he's a cuddler! Although I'd still be sure to keep snacks at the ready.

Y'know what would be fun - writing this whole thing over from the Doctor's POV. I'm not that crazy though! *grins*

I've seen that done to create a pair of matching standalones, but I can't imagine that wouldn't be onerous for longer fics. If there's some scene or scene you specifically wanted to write again through his POV, you could always post it as a ficlet or Chapter Xa.

Yes, but he might have had Melina to contend with.

It didn't seem like the Sisters gave much of a rat's arse about how he was doing after the fact, other than Melina who was just using the situation as an excuse to molest him (and yes, that's a deliberate choice of words). Is it just that Melina would've used his continued agitated state to further her own agenda, or would the Sisters have genuinely needed to intervene to keep him from, say, hurting himself?

You'll find out soon! *grins*

I can't say I'm terribly surprised. The question is which of them's getting drugged, with what, and why, I guess.

It wouldn't shock me if Melina persuaded the other Sisters that they needed to hang onto the Doctor for a little while longer... although she may get the shock of her very long life if she subsequently finds that while Ohica agrees with the need for him to stay, she believes pairing him off with Rose is best, as it was so clearly effective the first time.

(no subject)

Date: 2008-02-07 09:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mtemplar-fic.livejournal.com
FYI - I got a notification for your comment above, but not this one. Weirdness.

For most of my fics I have my private backup entry/working copy, which I then put into a new, accessible entry when it's ready to be posted.

I'll start doing that - since I would assume most people have friended this journal to see the entries on their friends page.

Do you mean couple that with his 'artron loss' as a euphemism, or is the loss of artron energy literally having a deleterious effect on him?

It's not a euphemism - the Time Lords that the Sisters previously extracted would have had 'normal' to 'slightly above normal' artron levels. The Doctor's would have been off the scale from being in the vortex for hundreds of years - he's had a HUGE loss of artron and is going to notice it, yes.

I've seen that done to create a pair of matching standalones, but I can't imagine that wouldn't be onerous for longer fics. If there's some scene or scene you specifically wanted to write again through his POV, you could always post it as a ficlet or Chapter Xa.

Mmm-hmm. Yeah, I definitely wouldn't do it for the entire thing.

It didn't seem like the Sisters gave much of a rat's arse about how he was doing after the fact, other than Melina who was just using the situation as an excuse to molest him (and yes, that's a deliberate choice of words). Is it just that Melina would've used his continued agitated state to further her own agenda, or would the Sisters have genuinely needed to intervene to keep him from, say, hurting himself?

Lyra was the one to realize that he wasn't doing well (specialty=mind reading) and figured he'd do better with Rose - ie while some of the other TLs may have been mated/bonded, their SOs were not on Karn at the time of extraction. Rose was, and the Doctor even subconsciously darn well knew that and would not have willingly been extracted by Melina. Had Rose not been there, Melina would have been able to 'further her agenda', as you said.

I can't say I'm terribly surprised. The question is which of them's getting drugged, with what, and why, I guess.

It wouldn't shock me if Melina persuaded the other Sisters that they needed to hang onto the Doctor for a little while longer... although she may get the shock of her very long life if she subsequently finds that while Ohica agrees with the need for him to stay, she believes pairing him off with Rose is best, as it was so clearly effective the first time.


Ooooh - I really can't comment on that. I wouldn't want to spoil anyone!

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Date: 2008-02-07 09:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] principia-coh.livejournal.com
The Doctor's would have been off the scale from being in the vortex for hundreds of years - he's had a HUGE loss of artron and is going to notice it, yes.

From the perspective of the story, does that have anything to do with the increasing levels of psychic abilities we've seen from the Doctor over time, at this point having reached their apex with Ten?

Had Rose not been there, Melina would have been able to 'further her agenda', as you said.

My question wasn't so much as to the Rose being there/not being there, as it was if she hadn't done 'well' by Lyra's standards.

Ooooh - I really can't comment on that. I wouldn't want to spoil anyone!

I look forward to the answers!

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Date: 2008-02-07 10:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mtemplar-fic.livejournal.com
From the perspective of the story, does that have anything to do with the increasing levels of psychic abilities we've seen from the Doctor over time, at this point having reached their apex with Ten?

Absolutely. Also notice that he's gotten much better at piloting the TARDIS.

My question wasn't so much as to the Rose being there/not being there, as it was if she hadn't done 'well' by Lyra's standards.

Ah - in that case, Melina would have been all too ready to jump in and help out.

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Date: 2008-02-07 11:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] principia-coh.livejournal.com
Absolutely. Also notice that he's gotten much better at piloting the TARDIS.

Better by certain standards, yes.

Ah - in that case, Melina would have been all too ready to jump in and help out.

If Lyra's more sort of a... diagnostician, for lack of a better term, would there be any way for her to discern that Melina's been deliberately messing with Ten above and beyond what she was tasked to do for the sake of extraction?

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Date: 2008-02-07 11:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mtemplar-fic.livejournal.com
Better by certain standards, yes.

True, true.

If Lyra's more sort of a... diagnostician, for lack of a better term, would there be any way for her to discern that Melina's been deliberately messing with Ten above and beyond what she was tasked to do for the sake of extraction?

*ponders* I imagine she'd be able to tell, yes - however, the changes would be of a temporary nature, like her sensory blocks. She'd have to have a reason to look for it though.

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Date: 2008-02-07 11:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] principia-coh.livejournal.com
*ponders* I imagine she'd be able to tell, yes - however, the changes would be of a temporary nature, like her sensory blocks. She'd have to have a reason to look for it though.

That sounds like Melina's not up to the task of permanently screwing him up, which is a relief. I imagine if the massed psychic power of the Sisterhood got behind an assault, though, he'd not stand much of a chance. Unless Rose went all Bad Wolf or something.

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Date: 2008-02-08 12:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mtemplar-fic.livejournal.com
I imagine if the massed psychic power of the Sisterhood got behind an assault, though, he'd not stand much of a chance.

Mmm-hmm...now that would be interesting. I'm envisioning a psychic assault on the order of Sutekh in 'Pyramids of Mars'. *ponders*

Man, I really do need to get some more icons. I really like your 'Ties of Ten' one up there. *points helpfully*

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Date: 2008-02-08 12:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] principia-coh.livejournal.com
I'll need to update that one with the improved tie from VotD... I put the tux in from TLE 'cos I had to, really; the double bow thing they had going on was just weird and I'll be glad to replace it. It also doesn't have the rose tie from Time Crash.

Feel free to raid my userpics (crediting other folks if I got it from elsewhere), and I've got more icons up at my gallery as well.

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Date: 2008-02-12 02:56 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I'm eagerly awaiting tomorrow's post as it lands squarely on my birthday:) This is definitely a great story, and the copious amount of great fics on LJ make me want to join. You are an awesome writer, and to add to it, a Mom! where do you find the time? Keep it up!

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Date: 2008-02-12 05:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mtemplar-fic.livejournal.com
How lovely - Happy Early Birthday! And do I have a present for you! *laughs*

*Blushes* Thank you! There are many tremendous writers here on the LJ community and I'm hoping that I'll get close to that level someday. And yes, I have 3 kidlings and work that keeps me busy - that would be why I'm not that prolific! Thanks again for the kind comments.

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Date: 2008-02-12 10:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] melnay13.livejournal.com
"And do I have a present for you! *laughs*"

I hope that's not laughter of the threatening sort... Although, evil laughter is quite fun. Bwahahahahahaha!

So, you convinced me, I joined:)

Thanks in advance for the smashing present!

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Date: 2008-02-12 10:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mtemplar-fic.livejournal.com
Oh - hello! And welcome to LJ!

And whether or not you think your present is 'smashing' depends upon your liking of cliffhangers.... *eeeeeeeeevil laughter*

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